Ty Anderson: The Bruins don't need to trade Chris Kelly

Ty Anderson: The Bruins don't need to trade Chris Kelly
- tyanderson

yes, yes they do actually . . .

If rask has a mediocre season, Bruins are a bottom 5 team imo.

Boston needs to do what the Devils failed to in order to get max in return. Get rid of Chara while he has value. Boston ain't winning cup anytime soon, no sense on holding onto Chara. Just like Devils needed to get rid of Marty BEFORE the loss to Kings in finals.

Guess I'll be the GM in my Eastside Hockey Manager!

Ugh......

Just have a feeling this is going to be a loooooong season. I wonder if the Bs will have a better season than the Sox at this point?

Maybe lightning strikes and we pull off an odd season like the Sox a few years ago when they won the World Seris and nobody thought they had a chance.........

But, I just think that's wishful thinking.

Hockey and football can't get here fast enough regardless though!

Boston needs to do what the Devils failed to in order to get max in return. Get rid of Chara while he has value. Boston ain't winning cup anytime soon, no sense on holding onto Chara. Just like Devils needed to get rid of Marty BEFORE the loss to Kings in finals.

Guess I'll be the GM in my Eastside Hockey Manager!
- Leniwm1

He has a no trade clause. To trade him in Eastside you have to scratch him a bunch of times until he gets pissed.

Nice job Ty. They really are in a very vulnerable spot right now. Not trying to be negative but I mean who the Hell is going to score goals for this Team. And I'm not sure that the offense will be the biggest issue this year. I don't see them competing for a Cup and I think most B's fans know this. So maybe you do try to move some of the Other Vets that are making the big coin. idk this off season really
has been puzzling at best.

i agree, maybe he's overpaid by half a million, maybe even a million, but one thing he isn't is a liability. And like you, I don't think you can discount his penalty killing and faceoff ability. I think this team is gonna take a few extra penalties this year, especially the D getting caught, so having a good pk guy is going to be an asset. i'm not as negative as all the other posters in this forum. Are they cup contenders? probably not, but who really in the east is? Lightning? Bruins played pretty well against them. I think they make the playoffs if they don't fall asleep for 10 weeks in the season like last year, avoid matching up with montreal, then who knows.

This is the truth... Whether it is Seidenberg or Kelly, I don't see a trade that makes any sense. While I think 3 million is a lot for a fourth line center, he is more than that. And I don't think Boston has even had a clear 3rd/4th line, it's been more like 2 3rd lines. (Just like they've always had 2 2nd lines lol) BUT, Kelly centered the 3rd line for most of his tenure in Boston.

And as I mentioned before, I'd be happy with a Kelly extension if it was at about 2.5 million for a couple years. I'm just wondering what kind of contract he'll think he deserves. He got 3 million for a 40 point season, but hasn't sniffed that since. He would be valuable as a leader and PK guy. He would also act as a safety net on a fourth line of a couple rookies, assuming they let Talbot walk next year. Could benefit the young guys coming up. Hell, maybe having Rinaldo play with a guy like Kelly will make him smarten up...

That's a BIG maybe.

Kinda funny that Boston's "assumed" strengths were in TWO positions (aside from goal) a year ago.

We were STRONG on defense.

We were STRONG down the middle.

Ummmm.......... Wtf just happend in a year!

So now we have a shaky D with rookies and old guys and need to overpay a vet to center the fourth line.

I wish we had a time machine and could go back to the summer after we lost to the Hawks in the finals.

Kinda funny that Boston's "assumed" strengths were in TWO positions (aside from goal) a year ago.

We were STRONG on defense.

We were STRONG down the middle.

Ummmm.......... Wtf just happend in a year!

So now we have a shaky D with rookies and old guys and need to overpay a vet to center the fourth line.

I wish we had a time machine and could go back to the summer after we lost to the Hawks in the finals.
- JIwasinskiJr

Bergy, Krejci, Spoon, Kelly
Khoko, Griffith, kempainnen, czarnik

I think it's a solid team with rookies knocking at the door. Plus marchand, Talbot, rinaldo. Half the team can play center!

Seidenberg will return to a top 5 #3 in the league, you heard it first here!

Bergy, Krejci, Spoon, Kelly
Khoko, Griffith, kempainnen, czarnik

I think it's a solid team with rookies knocking at the door. Plus marchand, Talbot, rinaldo. Half the team can play center!

Seidenberg will return to a top 5 #3 in the league, you heard it first here!
- Videoj

Ugh.........

Compared to last season.

Minus- Boychuck and Hamilton on D. Two top four D-men.

Minus- Soderberg and Campbell at center. (Many people thought the Yeti was a 2nd line center and wanted to trade Krejci. And Soupy was still considered a solid #4)

Was trying to point out what I assumed would be a couple pretty basic facts about last off season at this point, and today's team as presently constructed.

Anyways. I hope your right. Again, could pull a 2013 Red Sox and overachieve.

Ugh.........

Compared to last season.

Minus- Boychuck and Hamilton on D. Two top four D-men.

Minus- Soderberg and Campbell at center. (Many people thought the Yeti was a 2nd line center and wanted to trade Krejci. And Soupy was still considered a solid #4)

Was trying to point out what I assumed would be a couple pretty basic facts about last off season at this point, and today's team as presently constructed.

Anyways. I hope your right. Again, could pull a 2013 Red Sox and overachieve.
- JIwasinskiJr

You're such a downer dude. Spooner and Kelly should be upgrades on Yeti and Campbell. How we go from complaining about how inconsistent yeti is and downright terrible soupy was to saying well miss them is beyond me

You're such a downer dude. Spooner and Kelly should be upgrades on Yeti and Campbell. How we go from complaining about how inconsistent yeti is and downright terrible soupy was to saying well miss them is beyond me
- Shaundre93

Last season at this point. Same time........you really think we are better off NOW compared to last "off season" right now?

I "watched" Soderberg and thought of him as a good 3rd liner. To me that was obvious and instead of improving he regressed a little last season.

I've been on the Spoons train for a season and a half now. Watched him play against the Falcons in Springfield. BUT, why does everyone assume he will be a rockstar.........? Maybe he regresses just like Soderberg did.........

TRACK RECORD and CONSISTENCY. A lack of them create variables.

My argument is that we have a bunch of "variables" now that we didn't have last season at this point.

How is simply pointing out the changes and saying we are "A" better than last season or "B" worse than last season a bad thing?

Again, I don't think "this present team" is going to be that great. Maybe you are right and some guys that NOBODY thought would emerge will emerge as studs.

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I try to look at things starting a "0" and adjusting my opinion based on observations. I think a lot of people have preconceived notions and try to find ways to support them.

Maybe you are right. I hope you are. But last off season at this point we were debating trading Krejci and a D-man. We were VERY solid in both positions. Now we MUST have Kelly play center on the fourth line and nobody has a clue who our top four D-men are going to be. Those are facts.

Last season at this point. Same time........you really think we are better off NOW compared to last "off season" right now?

I "watched" Soderberg and thought of him as a good 3rd liner. To me that was obvious and instead of improving he regressed a little last season.

I've been on the Spoons train for a season and a half now. Watched him play against the Falcons in Springfield. BUT, why does everyone assume he will be a rockstar.........? Maybe he regresses just like Soderberg did.........

TRACK RECORD and CONSISTENCY. A lack of them create variables.

My argument is that we have a bunch of "variables" now that we didn't have last season at this point.

How is simply pointing out the changes and saying we are "A" better than last season or "B" worse than last season a bad thing?

Again, I don't think "this present team" is going to be that great. Maybe you are right and some guys that NOBODY thought would emerge will emerge as studs.

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I try to look at things starting a "0" and adjusting my opinion based on observations. I think a lot of people have preconceived notions and try to find ways to support them.

Maybe you are right. I hope you are. But last off season at this point we were debating trading Krejci and a D-man. We were VERY solid in both positions. Now we MUST have Kelly play center on the fourth line and nobody has a clue who our top four D-men are going to be. Those are facts.
- JIwasinskiJr

Agreed, especially on D, due to the fact that we lost 2 top 4 men, and didn't replace them at all. Maybe because I never cared for Soderberg, I didn't see losing him a big deal.

I just think there should be some excitement with so many IFs, and maybe that's what I'm banking on- The excitement of seeing the trio of Belesky, Hayes, Connolly, all young, emerging players, injected into the lineup. Not so much confidence in the team, but confidence in at least one of those acquisitions flourishing. But like you said, they are all variables...

Agreed, especially on D, due to the fact that we lost 2 top 4 men, and didn't replace them at all. Maybe because I never cared for Soderberg, I didn't see losing him a big deal.

I just think there should be some excitement with so many IFs, and maybe that's what I'm banking on- The excitement of seeing the trio of Belesky, Hayes, Connolly, all young, emerging players, injected into the lineup. Not so much confidence in the team, but confidence in at least one of those acquisitions flourishing. But like you said, they are all variables...
- Videoj

Boom, you nailed it. This team isn't necessarily as good on paper as last years team at this time, but last years team put up 96 pts playing guys like Gagne, Cunningham, Fraser, Griffith etc in top 6 roles throughout the year not to mention Z missed half the year and Seids was a dumpster fire the first 70 games. And Bart... I think 100 pts is a realistic goal for this group, and I'm excited to see some new faces. People on this board have been crying for a youth movement for over a year and now that it's happening theyre upset that we don't have established vets... *sigh*

Also, I see guys like Belesky, Hayes and Connolly having success. Why? They aren't being put in a position to carry much weight. They'll be playing third fiddle on their respective lines to Loui-Krejci Marchy-Bergy and Spooner-Pasta (probably). They won't be asked to do anything special, just to play to their strengths and I think that'll work out. I'm also expecting good things from Spooner. He straight up passed Yeti on the depth chart last year and was super effective as our defacto #1 scoring C. I think Spooner-Pasta on the third line could be a matchup nightmare for other teams

Lucic Spooner Fraser
Marchy Bergy Smith
Kelly Yeti Loui
Paille Campbell Gagne

Chara Hamilton
Seids McQuaid
Krug Miller

This was our opening night roster last year... 96 pts... Do we really not think were in a better spot right now?

Lucic Spooner Fraser
Marchy Bergy Smith
Kelly Yeti Loui
Paille Campbell Gagne

Chara Hamilton
Seids McQuaid
Krug Miller

This was our opening night roster last year... 96 pts... Do we really not think were in a better spot right now?
- Shaundre93

Marchy Bergy Hayes
Erikson Krejci Belesky
Connolly Spooner Pasta
Rinaldo Kelly Talbot

Chara Trotman or Irwin?
Seids Mcquaid
Krug Miller

So many question marks, however, healthy, I believe this roster will be better than last year's, but ONLY because of injuries that killed us. If something doesn't work out this year, halfway through, we bring in help with that 4 million on D, or O if those new acquisitions don't pan out. It's nice to have some options for a change.

Marchy Bergy Hayes
Erikson Krejci Belesky
Connolly Spooner Pasta
Rinaldo Kelly Talbot

Chara Trotman or Irwin?
Seids Mcquaid
Krug Miller

So many question marks, however, healthy, I believe this roster will be better than last year's, but ONLY because of injuries that killed us. If something doesn't work out this year, halfway through, we bring in help with that 4 million on D, or O if those new acquisitions don't pan out. It's nice to have some options for a change.
- Videoj

I think the "open roster" mentality they seem to be bringing in to the season should hold people accountable. Then again, the guys accused of floating (Lucic, Smith, Yeti) are all gone. I have high hopes for the forward group.

The defense definitely looks scary but lets be real for a min, it's been 7 years of Chara/Julien and not once was keeping the puck out of the net an issue. It might not be easy but I really believe that between Chara, Rask and Juliens team D system theyll manage. Having that structure in place also makes it way easier for young D like Miller and Morrow to succeed (see: every young D they've integrated the last 5 years) Also, they have the cap space(!) to acquire a good d man at the deadline if needed.

Agreed, especially on D, due to the fact that we lost 2 top 4 men, and didn't replace them at all. Maybe because I never cared for Soderberg, I didn't see losing him a big deal.

I just think there should be some excitement with so many IFs, and maybe that's what I'm banking on- The excitement of seeing the trio of Belesky, Hayes, Connolly, all young, emerging players, injected into the lineup. Not so much confidence in the team, but confidence in at least one of those acquisitions flourishing. But like you said, they are all variables...
- Videoj

Oh.......I'm excited!

I can't wait for the hockey season to start. It feels like forever since I've seen the black and gold on the ice.

Usually, over the last few seasons, I'm going into the season thinking, "we are a powerhouse and have a chance to win the "cup."

I guess we have been spoiled as fans. This year has a different feel right now.

Last season I was very disappointed as the season progressed and it was a huge let down. Right now I'm simply "adjusting" my "expectations" and they are a lot lower than in years past.

I thought we were one of the best teams in the NHL and had a lot of reasons why we were going to compete. Today I kinda think we are a little father down the todem poll. But that's why we play the games!

Oh.......I'm excited!

I can't wait for the hockey season to start. It feels like forever since I've seen the black and gold on the ice.

Usually, over the last few seasons, I'm going into the season thinking, "we are a powerhouse and have a chance to win the "cup."

I guess we have been spoiled as fans. This year has a different feel right now.

Last season I was very disappointed as the season progressed and it was a huge let down. Right now I'm simply "adjusting" my "expectations" and they are a lot lower than in years past.

I thought we were one of the best teams in the NHL and had a lot of reasons why we were going to compete. Today I kinda think we are a little father down the todem poll. But that's why we play the games!
- JIwasinskiJr

I understand completely. But I must say it feels nice to not expect to win. The past couple of years, I expected them to win the cup. They were "the best" so they should have won every game. Last season was so disappointing because I still had these expectations, but they weren't living up to them. Now, I can relax and be happy and proud when they win, and if they don't, it's because they just aren't good enough to win some nights.

No we don't... here's why.
Absence of Shaun Thornton = Leadership
Paille = penalty killer
Soupy = penalty killer

Kelly is the only one left that can fulfill those roles.
Bergy and March can't kill every penalty. Would be too many hard minutes per game.

Good article about the D system, including the forwards. Less heavy lifting from our forwards means more points for Bergy, Marchand, Krejci, and Ericksson.

A wash with Pasta and Spoons. As they do limited work there anyways.

https://www.bostonglobe.c...Xjbq6dyNpPOJ5N/story.html

Oh u have to keep Chris Kelly.....now Lucic and Hamilton they are disposable lol

Oh u have to keep Chris Kelly.....now Lucic and Hamilton they are disposable lol
- Greene19

Lucic is trending downwards look at the stats. Now watch them soar for this contract year and then plummet when some team gives him a re-tannered payday.

Hamilton wanted out. Bad return. But wanted out.

Kelly for a bottom 6 guy is pretty good. It's his contract thats awful. He makes half of that salary and get rid the no- trade nobody is even talking about him.

Your trolling a basic like your team. If Price cools off or is hurt, you guys are a lottery team. You rode a hot goaltender in a weak division all the way to a going with a whimper in the playoffs. You accomplished nothing. Congrats?